Naw, lox, I never got that far! Well, round the belly, I mean bend! That enlightenment just struck right between the eyes and it was like a vision, yeah, a vision on a cloud, kind a floating in a bubble of light...just Susan and her Brazilian, castanets and all...a magic carpet ride, maybe? I swear I was NOT smoking, never have done my entire life, nor drink...so all I can figure is I really *tuned* in, ya know, and there they were!