The truth is I'm a bit squeamish about these arguments.

Every country has reasons to be ashamed and reasons to be proud. Its rather bad form to keep waving the bad bits under you neighbours nose like these threads involving Keith always seem to end up. the rotten kipper school of diplomacy.

i don't say its all his fault, but he never steps back and thinks quietly to himself - so you don't like us, well f--k you! like most people do.

we always get chapter and verse about some other unsavoury incident that another country has been involved in.