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Thread #114180 Message #2435627
Posted By: Joe Offer
09-Sep-08 - 05:32 PM
Thread Name: BS: Alaska gov. Palin and banned books
Subject: RE: BS: Alaska gov. Palin and banned books
Well, Barry, I spent an hour typing a long, well-reasoned response to your message, and then I lost it when somebody closed this thread before I finished typing. I admit I screwed up in the process of recovering the message, but I couldn't figure out why it was justified to close the thread in the first place.
Anyhow, here's what Barry said, with my abbreviated response:
She asked about banning books
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
Well, she just asked - and it was 12 years ago, when she was 32 years old and a new mayor. And maybe the book she wanted to ban was in the children's section and had pictures of women having sex with goats - we don't know what she intended, if indeed she intended to do anything.
She wanted to dump the librarian
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
She DID fire the librarian, and the librarian got her job back right away. Politicians often fire the appointees of their predecessors - do you want an Obama-Biden Administation to keep the Bush Cabinet?
She wanted to sell "her" plane on e-bay
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
She had to sell it elsewhere, at a huge loss
The previous governor bought the plane for $2.7 million, and the Palin Administration sold it for $2.1 million, a loss of about 22 percent. Did you ever try to sell a used car for only 22 percent less that the price you paid for it?
She built a 15 million dollar sports complex in a town of 5,6,7000?
& they didn't own the land it was built on, & now the legal fees are throught the roof of that tiny town
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
What would it cost to build a gym for a high school for a town of 7,000? Click here to see photos of the complex, and judge for yourself whether or not it's extravagant. As for the title to the land, it's a complicated issue. This Wall Street Journal article says the City of Wassila began construction after winning title to the land in a federal court suit, but before an appeal. An "arbitrator ordered the city to pay $836,378 for the 80-acre parcel, far more than the $126,000 Wasilla originally thought it would pay for a piece of land 65 acres larger." But hey, $836,378 is far less than you'd pay for 80 acres here in California.
She want's to declare open season of protected species, Bears & wolves
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT
I'd like more facts - is she out to hunt down all protected species, or what?
The war in Iraq & the pipeline are both parts of God's plan
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
Some religious groups believe that everything that happens, is according to some sort of divine master plan. Others call it "fate" or "karma." If there's war, it's God's plan - but if there's no war, it's also God's plan. Now, if Sarah is hearing God instructing her to build pipelines and fight wars, then I'd be worried - but there's no evidence she's heard any such voices.
SHe backed the "bridge to nowhere" till she knew it was going no where & then said "No Thanks" but still took the money
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
Well, the "bridge to nowhere" was actually a bridge to the airport. As things stand now, people have to take a ferryboat to the airport, and they cannot drive anywhere from the city at all - they have to take a plane or a ferry. I'm glad I don't have to depend on a ferry to make it to flights on time. I have to cross dozens of bridges on my way to the airport, and I'm sure that together they cost billions of federal dollars. The Palin Administration decided the Alaska bridge was too expensive, even with the federal contribution, so they decided against it - not really a heroic decision, but probably wise. Were they required to return the Federal money, or were they allowed to spend it on other highway projects? If Palin was required to return the money and didn't, whey didn't the Feds go after her?
She thought that standing up for the 'Pledge of Alliance' put her in the same league as our 'Founding Fathers'. They are rolling on the floor laughing their asses off. Does she know they're all dead?
I think this page reports the matter accurately, but who can tell?
Here is Palin's response to a candidate questionnaire for the Alaska 2006 gubernatorial race:
Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance
Now, if Palin were a lawyer, she might have parsed her phrases more carefully. Was she saying the pledge came from the Founding Fathers, or was she merely saying that the Founding Fathers made frequent references to God, which is certainly true? Do you really believe that the Governor of Alaska thinks that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by the Founding Fathers? I don't think so - it's just that she should have written more clearly.
She doesn't know about 'THE' war?
Where's she been for the past 7 yrs?
In her speech to the Republican Convention last week, Palin said her son is going to be shipped to Iraq. Do you think she believes he's going there as a tourist? What war are you talking about? Of course she knows about the war in Iraq. Or is THE war some other war.
She doesn't know what the office of the vice Prez is for?
Shit, Barry, she was being ironic. If you read the constitution, you do wonder what productive work the Vice President does, other than sitting in the front seat in the Senate and hoping for the President to die. The last Vice President who did what a Vice President is supposed to do, was Dan Quayle, who opened a lot of shopping centers. I think Dick Cheney should be prosecuted for overstepping his authority; and I certainly don't appreciate Al Gore privatizing my job as a federal investigator (and wasting so much taxpayer money in subsequent contracts) in his attempt to "reinvent Government."
Great resume for a job interview.
How's she gonna explain all this when confroned in a debate, or is no one gonna ask the easy questions?
Can't wait
Barry
I'm voting for Obama and Biden because I agree with their political philosophy, not because of all the half-truths that are being posted to smear McCain and Palin. I also deplore all the falsehoods that have been circulated about Barack Obama, but I don't think it's a good idea to fight falsehood with more falsehood.
This is an election with four good candidates. Why don't we debate issues in this campaign, instead of perpetuating falsehood?
-Joe Offer-