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Thread #113747   Message #2437354
Posted By: mandotim
11-Sep-08 - 10:41 AM
Thread Name: '5000 Morris Dancers'
Subject: RE: '5000 Morris Dancers'
Quote from WAV; 'IB - The Beatles, e.g., knew they were copying an aspect of American culture (which they were obviously good at), and even tried speaking with American accents.' So accent is important when delineating someones practice of their culture is it? Specifically, if a 'foreign' accent is used, then it isn't Our Own Good English Culture (to use your own argument) Ok then...
I put myself through purgatory and listened to some of your 'chants' again, just to check. Your normal accent WAV; it's not English, is it? It's Australian. How did you acquire such an obviously non-English speaking voice? Surely you must have grown up in and acquired a non-English culture? Speaking as you do, I don't think you can claim English culture as your own, can you? Why don't you concentrate on your Own Good Australian Culture, as your accent is obviously better suited to this?

I've used your arguments here, WAV; mine would be different, and much closer to Guest Joe, above. Culture and nationality are not wholly interdependent, as any rational person knows; if this was the case, what would people with dual nationality be, culturally? No-one is born as a cultural being (when did you last see a new-born baby who could Morris dance or play the Cittern?), therefore place of birth has no bearing on what culture you are eventually socialised into, other than as an accident of geography. An example would be Colin Cowdrey, the famous English cricketer (later Baron Cowdrey of Tonbridge); a more 'English' man you would never meet; but he wasn't born in England, but in Ootacamund,India. He was educated in England, his parents were English and he lived all but a small period of his life in England. Would you argue that his own culture was Indian?

G'day, sport.
Tim