Fred, you are still defending the existence of dogs as pets and giving us a detailed history of their development and eyesight and no doubt you have a detailed knowledge of the development of the bio-degradable dog shit bag. I am really not bothered.

I am bothered about people being having issues with dogs at festivals including them being bitten. You can of course ignore the question and hope it may go away.

I have made two practical suggestions: 1) to ban them completely as happens elsewhere and 2) to have a separate area where they and their owners can camp and do doggy things together. They can look after the dogs and make sure they don't crap where other festival goers go. Small charge for this facility. Say £10.00 per dog.

Both of these suggestions will stop the presence of dogs worrying those who do not wish their weekend spoiled by other people's love of dogs. To me they seem eminently reasonable suggestions with an eminently reasonable charge.

So far your solution has been to keep the dog on a lead. Well one of the dogs that bit me was on a lead, and the dogs at Bromyard referred to by me and Snuffy this weekend at Bromyard were on leads. As someone had pointed out dogs on leads can still bite.

Guest - not a dog owner.

I have been away at Bromyard and had not fully kept up with the thread for three days. Sorry about that. As to your suggestion..........

I assume you are saying practical restrictions (no dogs in bars or in venues, dogs on leads at all times etc etc).

I just want to extend that to camping (if we agree on keeping them out of venues then it is only an extension of that). It would have been hard to provide a doggy area at Bromyard - you would have needed one area for dog owners in caravans and another for dog owners in tents and motor homes etc.....BUT it would have been easy to say no dogs on the main festival site, stay in the fields (camping area).

Where camping is mixed; caravans, camping vans and tents all together - then it would be easy to provide a separate area.