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Thread #110424   Message #2464574
Posted By: GUEST,Volgadon
13-Oct-08 - 01:48 PM
Thread Name: England's National Musical-Instrument?
Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
And, as said here (the obligatory link to the life's work), while some Scots and Irish are, of course, performing the music of other nations, the percentages are nowhere near that of English folkies - whether or not you think that's a bad thing.


At randomn, I picked Planxty, an Irish group. Let's analyze their track list.

The Black Album.
1)"Raggle Taggle Gypsy/Tabhair Dom Do Lámh" (traditional)
The tune is Irish, but the song is Scottish.
2)"Arthur McBride" (traditional)
Printed in an English broadside, IIRC, with probable Scottish antecedents.
3)"Planxty Irwin" (Turlough O'Carolan)
Irish, but with old Italian pop influences.
4)"Sweet Thames Flow Softly" (Ewan MacColl)
A modern song by a Scott from England.
5)"Junior Crehan's Favourite/Corney is Coming" (traditional reels)
6)"The West Coast of Clare" (Andy Irvine)
A modern song written by a man born in England to irish and Scottish parents.
7)"The Jolly Beggar" (traditional reel)
A Scottish song.
8)"Only Our Rivers" (Mickey McConnell)
Modern Irish song.
9)"Sí Bheag, Sí Mhór" (Turlough O'Carolan)
See #3.
10)"Follow Me Up to Carlow" (traditional)
Irish, but written in the early 1900s.
11)"Merrily Kissed the Quaker" (traditional slide)
Is it Irish?
12)"The Blacksmith" (traditional)
English!!!!!

The Well in the Valley
1)"Cúnla"
Irish.
2)"Pat Reilly"
A northern Irish song.
3)"The Kid on the Mountain"/"An Phis Fhliuch" (slip jigs)
Irish.
4)"As I Roved Out"
Irish.
5)"The Dogs Among the Bushes"/"Jenny's Wedding" (reels)
Irish.
6)"The Well Below the Valley"
An old Child ballad from England based on a very popular European storyline.
7)"Hewlett"
Irish.
8)"Bean Pháidin"
Irish.
9)"The Fisherman's Lilt"/"Cronin's Hornpipe" (hornpipes)
Irish.
10)"As I Roved Out"
An English song, but also found in Northern Ireland.
11)"Humours of Baliloughlin"
Irish.
12)"Time Will Cure Me"
Written by Andy Irvine.

Cold Blow and the Haily Night
1)"Johnny Cope"
A Scottish song.
2)"Dennis Murphy's Polka"/"The 42 Pound Cheque"/"John Ryan's Polka" (polkas)
Irish, but modern, IIRC.
3)"Cold Blow And The Rainy Night"
English, from the West Country.
4)"'P' Stands For Paddy, I Suppose"
Found all over Britain and Ireland.
5)"The Old Torn Petticoat"/"The Dublin Reel"/"The Wind That Shakes The Barley" (reels)
6)"Baneasa's Green Glade"
Written by Andy Irvine about his Balkan experiences.
7)"Mominsko Horo"
Folk dance from the Balkans.
8)"The Lakes Of Pontchartrain"
An American song learned by an Irish capitalistic immigrant in 1905. Christy Moore learned it from the Mike Waterson.
9)"The Hare In The Corn"/"The Frost Is All Over"/"The Gander In The Pratie Hole" (jigs)
10)"The Green Fields of Canada"
Irish.