Oh, and while in pissed-off mode, I notice that someone above, à propos of very little, refers familiarly to Ms Carthy: (Eliza did folk no favours on Jules Holland) by which I assume was meant the extended transmission of Jools in which she was showcasing her self-written songs from Dreams Of Breathing Underwater. I've just watched two very moving and personal renditions on the iPlayer, backed by her very excellent band, which were anything but an attempt to "do folk a favour". How patronising and myopic. It reminds me of when Chris Wood was playing out songs which eventually became Lark Descending a few years ago at a local care in the community drop-in centre (sorry "f*lk club"). A typical GEFF couple (y'know, tie-dies & tankards) stalked out when he failed to produce Andy Cutting from his guitar case, declaring they'd come to hear "English traditional tunes". Perhapd they should have stayed at home and put on their old Vaughan Williams vinyl, just as Ms Carthy oughtn't to be allowed to pick up a tenor guitar.