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Thread #99510   Message #2475472
Posted By: Q (Frank Staplin)
24-Oct-08 - 09:24 PM
Thread Name: Origins: This Old Time Religion (Spiritual/Gospel)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This Old Time Religion (Spiritual)
GIVE ME THE OLD-TIME RELIGION New vers.
Copyright Homer A. Rodeheaver

Chorus:
Give me the old-time religion, (3x)
It's good enough for me.

1
None of these new-fangled isms, (3x)
White folks talk so much about.
2*
Darwin's evolution isms, (3x)
You can't find them in god's word.
3
Never mind whar you come from, (3x)
But look out where you's a-gwine.
4
In the beginning God created, (3x)
Spoke the word and it was done.
5
I .... want the same old Bible, (3x)
That our fathers loved so well.

"*For the second verse these words may be substituted:
Darwin's evolution monkeys, (3x)
Ain't no kin to me, nor mine."

This amusing revision appeared as No. 3, "Give Me the Old-Time Religion," New Version, copyright 1923, Homer Alvan Rodeheaver, arr. J. B. Herbert, with score, from "Rodeheaver's Negro Spirituals, nd, The Rodeheaver Company, Chicago.

Rodeheaver was a white gospel composer and publisher, often a companion to Billy Sunday. In his publications, he made changes to many gospel songs and claimed copyright, "International copyright secured." The cover of "Negro Spirituals has introductory text:
"A Work of Real Value"
"During the past few years a widespread interest has developed in the plaintive, weird, original melodies through which the negroes of the South express their spiritual emotions. Mr. Homer Rodeheaver has made a lifelong study of these unique "spirituals" and has been continuously alert to learn of new ones and get them before the public, believing them to have a spiritual message of value to everyone."
"This new book- "Rodeheaver's Negro Spirituals"- contains fifty-one of these unique musial messages and, so far as we know most of them have never been set to music notation or printed before. A large number of these songs were "discovered" by Mr. Rodeheaver when the "Billy" Sunday evangelistic campaign was held at Columbia, S. C. ......"

These statements are largey false- several versions of many of them were in print, with music, when Rodeheaver's booklet was published, and the rest seem to be compositions or wholesale revisions by Rodeheaver, Herbert, Sunday or other white evangelists.
Rodeheaver's obviously uncomfortable attempts to use Negro dialect are sometimes amusing.

One, which I think is an old labor song, "Ain't It a Shame to Work on Sunday," I will post separately elsewhere after I have tried to find some information. Earliest recording I have found is 1918, Bethel Jubilee Quartet. It is parodied as "Ain't it a Shame to Whip Your Wife on Sunday," (in DT) played by Fiddlin' Johnny Carson, Wiseman Sextet (1923), "Ain't it a shame to dance on Sunday" in an oral history, 1925 (McLin Project), etc.