The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #112913   Message #2476733
Posted By: mandotim
26-Oct-08 - 04:59 PM
Thread Name: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
Subject: RE: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
WAV; you don't know me at all; how dare you accuse me of being hotheaded? I've tried reasoned argument, logic, support, persuasion, academic critique, humour, guidance and the offer of knowledge. None of these produce any sort of sensible response from you, as many others on this list have told you. Don't you dare patronise me by telling me that what I have posted is false and defamatory (a form of words you repeat constantly, but are wholly unable to justify.) By any reasonable definition you are both a racist and a sexist, based on your own writing here and elsewhere. Judging by your seeming inability to learn from observation, reflection, active experimentation or abstract conceptualisation you are also stupid, in the true, non-perjorative sense of the word. You have no concept of what being English is, as evidenced by WLD's excellent post above, and have no real interest in learning about England and its real culture. You have been asked on numerous occasions to define clearly what you mean by 'English' and Good English Culture', and you have ducked the question every single time. This also makes you an intellectual and moral coward, willing to spout provocative rubbish without a shred of evidence or academic credibility to back it up. This is neither false nor defamatory, and can all be evidenced by reading your posts here and your utterly discredited websites.
To football; I have forgotten more about 'Associatin' (sic) Football in England than you, an Australian will ever know, having been steeped in the game by a family full of professional sports players, and an active player, shareholder and supporter of football for most of my life. Don't presume to lecture me about the rules and international competitions; see my posts above which reveal to all how bereft of knowledge you really are about how the game is run.
Finally; the truth about you WAV, the truth you can't handle; by your own accounts, you're a failure as a sportsman, you're a failure in relationships, you're a failure in your career, you're a failure in your attempts to integrate yourself into an alien culture (English), you're a failure as a musician, you're a failure as a singer, you're a failure as a poet. You're angry at the world for giving you these hard knocks, and lash out at anything that looks like an easy target; for example, immigrants who make a better life than you have, singers and players of songs that are too difficult for you to play, employers who give jobs to foreigners and not to you, people who earn a good living by being better than you at sports, women who play sports better than you. All of this to deflect from the fact that you can't accept that your record of multiple and abject failure might be at least partly your fault.
My country is important to me, WAV; I have lived in England all of my life, absorbing its many cultural messages, and revelling in the many wonderful influences that our mongrel race absorbs. I have never met anyone English with as narrow a view of England as you have. Most English people take a balanced and objective view of what it is to be English; you, WAV, are about as unbalanced as it gets. You have no respect on this board, and are unlikely to get any until you start responding to fair questions with proper, reasoned answers.
Grow up. Learn. Become good at something, preferably something you enjoy. Maybe then the world (and particularly modern England) won't seem like such a hostile place.