Joe, as usual, you are bang on the money, and that was the main reasons for posting again funnily there was not one response.
I was wondering in the post three yrs ago what the mudcatters would say those that I spoke to in Washington and Boston did seem to be of the consensus that he wasn't like Bush, personally i was impressed with him while I might be a british conservative I have never been a fan of the Bush family administration. After hearing McCain lecture and meeting him briefly afterwards i remeber thinking the republicans could do worse than have him as there nomination.
Cllr