You know I've been hanging around mudcat for quite a while and at times it has been great and at other times it has been really disapointing. But (I know Peter I should never start a sentence with but) its the people who stick around here that really make it great. The people that work through the adversity and still post and come back time and again say their piece respectful of others when possible and keep it all together somehow. Its a nice place to come and sit and talk or listen and meet new friends. I like Mick's analogy. I know that I will probably never meet very many of the people I've grown to like here but that doesn't matter. I can talk to them even argue with them but its the people who keep coming back that are the ones that make this community great. I know, make way for the big hook my 15 minutes are up i'm rambling...trails off, Den