OK, gotta five our sun-god-worshipper pharaoh a bit more of a response.


Akenaton: "What your country could do with, is a large measure of fury about being treated like fuckin' idiots.
The very worst part is that you all seem to know that the political system is rotten, yet after being comprehensively fucked, you follow your leader Mr Obama, roll over and invite them to fuck you again!

I'm beginning to think that the "right" in America are the ones with the balls......and I include Sarah Palin in that.

When will it ever dawn on you that change never has been and never will be served up to you by the US Corporate political system?
They will use any trick in the book to convince you otherwise....race....gender....finance....terrorism, but as proved by the Anti Vietnam and the Civil Rights Movements, the initiative has to be taken by the American people themselves."

Funny, but we're arguing yet we don't really disagree. Except maybe on tactics.
I may be wrong, but I think - and I hope - that Barack Obama's tactical disagreements with me (and you?) reflect more his astute grasp of political realities than disagreements with progressive ideals.   The Democrats do not have a filibuster-proof majority in the US Senate.   And there are a few "blue dog Democrats" who will usually side with the Republicans/conservatives on many voes.    It's not like the Democratic/Progressive wing can just push through major policy changes without convincing large portions of the Republican/conservatives to come aboard, without convincing the majority of the voting public to agree.

One of the main points repeated by Thom Hartmann in his book, "Cracking The Code: The Art and Science Of Political Persuasion," is that when you want to win someone over to your side, it's important to start by finding common ground. What's too often been lost in US (and maybe other) politics is that search for common ground.

Back to the thread topic, specifically. I'd say both (all) parties can agree that Senate seats and other public offices should not be up for the highest bidder. We'd probably probably all agree, too, that flagrant wrongdoers need to be removed from office and probably prosecuted beyond that.   

Like you, I'm pissed that the Democrats - for reasons I have yet to comprehend, much less endorse - seem to lack the spine to thoroughly investigate/prosecute Republican party wrongdoing. (Does someone have serious "art" on Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?)
Still, I hope and have some faith that Barack Obama is a very shrewd, yet basically clean, politician, who has a firm grasp of how to accomplish needed reforms. That probably doesn't mean being always totally above suspicion. I don't know how anyone who was could possibly be elected dogcather.