Jim's constructive contribution to this discussion, from my point of view at least, is to recognise that, perhaps, suppression is going on in this thread.

Please tell me the last time I started a discussion on English culture, caitlin? I've told you the reason I moved Diane's words up here, because I wanted to know what her views, and others, actually *were* on that very subject, given the derisive comments so often written on here about other people's views of English culture.

So far, I've seen *much* personal abuse, but very, very little discussion on the actual subject matter itself. If we could get back to the original subject, it would be appreciated.