There are bad singers and bad singer, those that are still learning their craft, have as much right to try and hone their skills at the local club, where people should be trying to help them improve, get over their nerves what ever, and then there are the BAD singers, yes they have as much right as anyone but people should be constructive in the comments and yes be honest, try and steer them into trying to improve, or just tell them you are bad mate sorry but thats life. I wont go to clubs any more, mainly due to the inbuilt policies of nearly every club i have been to, however i have not been to any club for many years and will stand corrected if there is a club out there that dont have these stupid rules and regulations, but judgeing by the ammount of threads on mudcat bemoaning the club scene, boy im glad i dont go. id sooner pay to go to a venue thats non club, privately run, where i can go to the bar, loo, whatever mid song whatever without the folk police getting on my case, every one has to learn, ive been struggling with the melodeon for ages, but would not inflict my screeching , wrong noting, on anyone other than me. once ive got the hang of it , then i will be quite happy to play where others can hear,