Touché Greg. Yes, it IS being eroded - hence my comment about trenches and the Grammys.

But at least there is still a sort of consensus on trad (though there are conflicting definitions even here).

Most here seem to think 54 folk is a lost cause. I wish there was a better solution. Maybe we'll find one, but trying to cram the genie back into the bottle ain't it. Nor is heaping opprobrium on younger people who learned the Wikipedia definition at their Mother's knees.