The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #116994   Message #2525280
Posted By: Nerd
26-Dec-08 - 09:23 PM
Thread Name: English Culture - What is it?
Subject: RE: English Culture - What is it?
To put Lox's comment on Priscilla in further context, the thread was about Jewish influence on folk music. Therefore, his post about a movie in which a Jewish folksong is adapted to another context was not an example of random sniping, it was directly on-topic for its thread. And again, it never accused the film of anti-semitism.

To put Diane's comments in this thread in further context, first she said of Lox's post:

"it's a complaint about the 'anti-semitism' of the funniest film ever, Priscilla, Queen Of The Desert."

Not only is she wrong, she put the phrase "anti-semitism" in quotation marks, suggesting it was a direct quote from Lox. This is misleading in the extreme, as Lox does not allege anti-semitism in the post at all.

Later, Diane repeats the claim that the post was a "quest to seek out anti-semitism where none exists." As I pointed out, it is no such thing, and nowhere alleges anti-semitism in the film. It merely points out the scene as a "fun" moment in which one character annoys another with an adaptation of a Jewish folksong.

Finally, Diane defends herself for not providing a link (which would have made these deceptions plain), by saying "I simply identified the thread."

In fact, she didn't identify the thread. I had to search on "Lox" and "Priscilla Queen of the Desert" to find it.

I defended Lox because, after Diane attacked him, I was interested to see what he had said about Priscilla. Investigating, I found that Diane was misquoting him. So in short, Diane is up to her old tricks, being deceitful and rude, bringing up people's personal lives and their real names when this is a breach of what used to be called 'netiquette," and making up false histories about other 'Catters.

I haven't really defended Lizzie in particular, though I think she has the same rights as anybody here. I merely wanted to point out, from the perspective of someone with a large family of English Jews, that English Jews consider themselves English, and consider much of their culture to be English culture. Otherwise, as Diane says, I am not myself English, so I prefer to see what others have to say.