SR - aye, or in some other convenient orifice . . .

Roll on Imbolc, when I shall (if I'm let) give some folk the further opportunity to be rude, to call themselves names, to require the thread to be closed, and then to be all apologetic . . .

My youngest grandson behaves like this, as does my great-granddaughter.

Wise and Blessed Be, all Friends on the 'Cat - you know who you are.

E & B