Pip - Very true and I'd give some flak of my own to that 2nd attitude!

My point is that Male sides are one of the many forms of Morris, and their existence is not a threat to anyone elses viewpoint. We shouldn't be insecure about that, the assumpution that this argument has to be won against the Ring feels like the 1970's, I know there's a recession that feels like we're in 'Life on Mars' but haven't we moved on?!

Let's get all get out there in 2009 and show how vibrant, diverse and alive and kicking we are!