I agree entirely with Big Mick - but I don't recognize his comments in Bobert's statement of agreement. This thread, like the other (parallel) one, is entirely polarized. There is no one at all here who demonstrates any interest in moving ahead rather than backwards, or in solving the problem rather than casting blame. I admit to being a historical accuracy pedant, but it really doesn't appear that anyone participating in this discussion is data-driven, nor do they check Fox News and Al Jazeera (or vice versa) before spouting whatever party line they happen to buy. Sorry folks, but I'm out of here.