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Thread #117493   Message #2541957
Posted By: Teribus
18-Jan-09 - 03:39 AM
Thread Name: BS: Israel Moves in.
Subject: RE: BS: Israel Moves in.
And get stung by enough bees often enough and you can end up dead.

Still no answers to the questions posed Guest ifor, now why doesn't that surprise me.

Now what was that you had to say about Gilad Shalit:

"Corperal Shalit is a soldier in an occupying army.He is the ONLY Israeli prisoner in the hands of the Palestinian Resistance.I feel very sorry for him .I also feel sorry for the thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails,some of whom have been routinely tortured .I hope that no prisoner of any nationality is waterboarded or tortured like those in the hands of the US military.You say he is "kidnapped" but as a soldier in an aggressive occupying army he is clearly a prisoner of war."

The facts of his capture - Hamas militants had to dig a tunnel from Gaza into Israel to mount a raid in order to capture him. In the ensuing skirmish, that took place inside Israel, two Israeli soldiers and two Hamas militants died.

Question - Precisely what land was Gilad Shilat, an Israeli soldier, "occupying" at the time he was "captured"??

Answer - None he was standing on Israeli soil.

Question - Since 15th August 2005 what sections of Gaza have been occupied, "aaggressively" or otherwise by the Israeli armed forces, Israeli settlers, or anybody else?

Answer - None

Question - At the time that Gilad Shilat was kidnapped from inside Israel were IDF troops engaged inside Gaza on any military operations?

Answer - None

Question - Is Corporal Gilad Shilat being treated as a "Prisoner of War"

Answer - No he most certainly is not. No-one knows for certain whether or not he is alive. The ICRC has been given no access to him, a violation of international law. He has no direct communication with his family. International humanitarian law absolutely prohibits taking and holding a person by force in order to compel the enemy to meet certain demands, while threatening to harm or kill the person if the demands are not met. Thus Hamas holding Gilad Shalit as a hostage to their demands is a war crime (You were quite keen on those weren't you Ifor??).

Example:
"In January 2009, there were claims from Palestinian sources that Shalit had been injured by shrapnel during the Israeli attack on the Gaza Strip.

On January 11, 2009, Abu Marzuk, deputy of Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal, told the London-based Arabic daily Al-Hayat that:

"Shalit may have been wounded, and he may not have been. The subject no longer interests us. We are not interested in his well-being at all, and we are not giving him any special guard since he is as good as a cat or less"

A logical, rational conclusion would be that the contention that Corporal Shilat was part of an occupying force captured and held as a prisoner of war is frankly ludicrous. According to a leading representative of his captors "he is as good as a cat or less".

Guest lox - sources - by the ton - just Google up "Israel Rocket attacks from Gaza" - Wikipedia gives the day by day going back to 2002. Somehow I doubt whether you'll bother to read through them.