The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #22672   Message #254364
Posted By: bob jr
09-Jul-00 - 12:19 AM
Thread Name: Why did Dylan dis Phil Ochs?
Subject: RE: Why did Dylan dis Phil Ochs?
well i guess i am gonna defend bob dylan again but i sure get tired of it..i mean dont you folks have ears out there? first lets put some stupid dogs down here dylan was an affected singer but when he stopped (ie when the world wasnt listening ) he sounds great!! nashville skyline? great singing no question ,the unrealesed basement tapes? fantastic singing but you got to go look for it...during his "i am gonna be woody guthrie"phase or his "look how many drugs i am on"phase yeah his singing could suck and sometimes when he got older it was a mushmouthed affair i admit but most of the time this guy is a very expressive singer i will quote chapter and verse if you like

second point that old "dylan stole from tradition" ok who was bobs biggest influence in coming in to folk music?

any one who doesnt know it was woody guthrie please stop talking bout bob dylan forever or until you listen to some of guthries "originals"...woody wrote great words but when it came to tunes he just out and out stole them from other traditional songs and if its ok for guthrie (and just about everyone else for that damn matter) why is not ok for bob dylan...when someone takes something out of traditional music and brings into todays scene (such as dont think twice based on an old traditional song called whose gonna buy your chickens now) i think that is great why shouldnt tradition be adaptable to the times?