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Thread #115854   Message #2546336
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
22-Jan-09 - 03:23 PM
Thread Name: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
Subject: RE: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
"GfS rants on, in the face of overwhelming medical and psychological to the contrary, about homosexuality being a lifestyle option, and "curable"."

...Absolutely, just the reverse is true. Amos posted a list of studies, that emphatically state homosexuals are that way, and it can't be reversed. I showed conclusively, that those studies are wrong, but that post got deleted. Perhaps, (with some editing) I can re-post it. If I can, and it debunks the politically financed studies, would you allow yourself to re-think your position?..or hold on to the 'party line'...which is not supported by the heads of the party??? I suppose anyone can believe what they choose, whether it's based on solid fact, or not...but what a person believes, may be a 'relative' truth to them, but not a reality, as to the cause and effect, of what really is. I have counseled, homosexuals before, and they unanimously, have agreed with me. Some of the homosexual rhetoric, depends on how long, that person has been homosexual..however, all of them, at one time or another, recall the time when they made the conscious choice, to get involved sexually, with another of the same sex. This is not a 'civil rights' issue, any more than smoking, as was pointed out. To make it, and hold on to it as a civil rights issue, does indeed re-direct the issue, and withholds, treatment, from those, who wish to have a nuclear family, but feel powerless, within themselves, or from the community to give them aid.....especially in the critical time, when they face this alone.

By the way Ebbie, I know you are instrumental on having some input on some musical events, up there in Juneau. Do you schedule them when its snowing, then sneer and laugh at all the people stuck out there in the weather??? I find your attitude counter productive to getting these people help, when they want it..which of course, affects the rest of their lives....or at least a good portion of it.