When they do heroic stuff, yeah... But just doing their jobs, however important, ain't, IMO, heroism... In other words, I think we should rethink the term as it seems that it's overused... I think stuff like "beyond the call of duty" and "extreme courage in the face of personal danger" need to be factored in...

Face it, Sully was making decsions that also were in his best survival interests by keeping the nose of the plane up... Yeah, that was also the correct way to land a plane on water but had the situation be reversed and the best way to land a plane in water would have been to take it in nose first and thereby killing the pilot and co-pilot to save the passangers and Sully had done that, yeah, I think that passes the "extreme courage in the face of personal danger" test...

Okay, it was asmirable for Sully to walk the plane twice to be sure everyone was out but once out there with the passengers I don't understand how the "women and children first" test was bungled???

I donno, Ron...

B~