"By the way, nobody knows how many people were killed in Jenin. The only reports that are being used to make that determination are the number of bodies that showed up at hospitals and morgues. The number of people who were buried under buildings by IDF bulldozers remains unknown." - CarolC

In saying the above CarolC you seem to display an amazing lack of understanding of the realities of life and what measures indicate the true state of things.

Jenin was a refugee camp - Correct??

The population of a refugee camp is regulated - Correct??

So the only reports that were used to make the determination of the fatalities were the number of bodies that showed up at hospitals and morgues. What about the numbers seeking aid?? What about the numbers drawing rations?? If as the "Palestinians" contended there were 3000 killed there would be a marked reduction in those being fed wouldn't you think CarolC, after all the population of the Jenin camp was 13,000 and all of a sudden due to those beastly Israelis the population is reduced from 13,000 to 10,000, and all apart from 50 odd bodies are left to rot under rubble. Can you therefore explain why the numbers who continued to receive aid did not reflect the disappearance of 3,000 people from the population of Jenin??

I take it CarolC that in your life you have not encountered sudden and violent death in any great magnitude?? I ask because of your statement regarding - "The number of people who were buried under buildings by IDF bulldozers remains unknown."

Dead bodies stink CarolC, bodies once dead CarolC also become a really serious health risk to those who are still living, so much so CarolC that when humans get killed in war, in natural disasters, etc. Every possible effort is made to recover bodies and bury them, because if that is not done and people continue to live amongst rotting human remains then people start dying from all manner of diseases.

Sorry about that CarolC but the number of people who died in Jenin is known, it was between 53 and 56. It is known exactly because refugee camps are not run like a theme park, they are very carefully regulated as far as everyday life aspects are concerned.