Thanks for answering my question from the ugly Orange thread Inobu. I've never had a problem with the way YOU make your points and there's hardly anyone here who is more passionate about these kinds of issues. In almost a year I've only seen you act sarcastic or patronizing once. So that's a pretty good average. Almost everything this Conrad says from his rabidly pro smoking tirades to his 'musicians who play for money suck' to his obvious glee at those who want to march past the houses of people who lost a battle hundreds of years ago, is geared to stirring up trouble. I have a lot of respect for folks like you, McGrath, and actually most people here.g