Still having a hard time listing good things Christianity and Christians have done, it seems.

Mudcatters not anti-religion, especially anti-Christian?   Of course not, perish the thought. It's just that all the people so willing to criticize the nurse now have broken computers so they can't possibly get on to tell us about accomplishments of Christians.   Not that they were traumatized as children by being forced to go to Chapel for years, or anything similar. No indeed.

Well, I'll help you a bit. Can only tell you about the US situation, mostly, though I suspect somebody can tell you about the UK.


1)   The US civil rights movement--from abolitionism through the 60's and beyond is heavily grounded in Christianity.   In the UK you may be familiar with Wilberforce; in the US virtually the entire abolitionist movement right through Rev Martin Luther King--and since.

2) In the Katrina disaster, Christian groups were far more effective--and quicker--at offering and carrying out assistance than governmental groups, partly since they were already at the scene.

3) For folkies, I would think gospel music, both black and white, might have some appeal. Totally impossible without Christianity.

4) Christian churches offer help to people all over the world caught in various disasters. The days of, for instance, of forcing people to listen to sermons before getting something to eat, as at the time of the Famine, are long gone--this aid is given unconditionally.

That's just a start.

Whereas the most people killed in the history of the world were killed by atheists---Hitler, Stalin and Mao. If anybody cares to assert Hitler was a Christian, you will need some proof. Just his stating God had saved him from the 20 July plot, for instance, is no proof--just the raving of a progressively unstable dictator.

And do non-atheists therefore think all atheists are evil?   That's absurd.   But some Mudcat atheists seem to have no problem lumping all Christians together as destructive bigots.

It sometimes seems these atheists--some, not all, either can't or won't think.   Some, like Bill D, and Amos, do. Plenty more do not.