She hasn't made it at all, Ake, nor have you.

Expressing hatred, irrational fear, cross-eyed bias, and the like, is not "making a point very well", or even making it at all.

She, and you, have a belief that there should be a social institution, with appertaining legal rights, to "protect" heterosexual mating, as though it really depended on a social formula, and to keep it from being brought low by such a horrible proposition as equal status in the eyes of the law regardless of gender pairing.

I believe that no such special institution is needed to encourage heterosexual pairing and that while the protocols and fluff and pomp of solemn rituals is all well and good, there should never be a legal privelege allowed to some and denied to others on the basis of their sexual orientation. You think htere should be.

Neither of you has justified this slant.

I think this slant is undemocratic and inhumane, and essentially a defense of bigotry.

Shall we start the whole conversation over again? Why don't you jjust read the thread into a tape recorder??


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