I wonder which of you two got the better return out of that sordid little deal then?? ;-) (I suspect my vote for sheer awfulness would have been for the banjo CD ... there's just a bit too much musicality in the Martians' piece de resistible) I sincerely hope that Ralphie's neighbours are up to coping with the strain later on today - you may have a lot to answer for Liz [grin]