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Thread #116781   Message #2584135
Posted By: Ireland
08-Mar-09 - 05:40 PM
Thread Name: BS: The Irish Peace Process
Subject: RE: BS: The Irish Peace Process
Maybe VT you should not talk about things you know little about, the problems in Ireland simply do not come from films that do not put both sides across.

Wrt US military who fought in WW2 do you really think John Wayne won the war? Oh come on, it is real life your talking about and we in N.Ireland do not need a recurrence of the murdering.

"Intellegence gathering is likely to be veiwed by any one with an ounce of common sense as provocative and threatening."

Please explain this,to whom would it pose a threat,the normal law abiding person or the murderer who has something to hide and nothing to offer except death.

We have our deputy first minister Mc Guinness, an ex IRA leader in London Derry during the time off Bloody Sunday, not being able to condemn the murders without referring to the past.

Guess what, we are trying to move forward,we can't do it bringing up the past as both sides have their scars and our DFM should realise that.

The Bloody Sunday massacre was a disgrace any decent minded person should see that but my generation cannot pay for that nor should the next.

If you want to truly understand Ireland read books from both sides you will find the truth between the two.

The murdering affected both sides and the establishment on both side did their fair share off discrimination when partition happened.

That was when the State of Ulster was established, from a unionist point off view N.Ireland was for the protestants and the Republic was for the Catholics. That nonsense was backed up by an ethnic cleansing on both sides, I am sure you only allow yourself to look at one sides perspective.

The members off the IRA during the 1920's took their revenge on a family that opposed them in the republic. They shot two young men in the groin in front off their family and watched them bleed to death in agony. Look up Coolacrease. You will find two differing accounts.

Th Catholic Church had its fair share off discrimination against protestants in the republic, they insisted that in mixed marriages the children should be brought up catholic, an attempt to rid them off protestants.

Ireland is not all black and white,and it's history is not to be learned from Wind In the Barley nor films such as The Hunger.