AKE....""Carol's contention was that Socialism and Communism were no less likely to encourage corruption than Capitalism. I disagreed, but at no time did I suggest that there have been no corrupt Socialist or Communist regimes.""

Your response to Carol was as follows:-

AKE....""Oh yes they are!!......If led by someone perceived to be incorruptible.....This does not apply under Capitalism where everyone is expected to be very corruptible, especially our leaders!""

My response was as follows:-

Rabid anti capitalist that you are, you cannot possibly BELIEVE that there can be incorruptible people ONLY in non capitalist societies,

It would appear that YOU are the one who misunderstood Ake, since your comment states unequivocally that while an incorruptible leader may EXIST in a communist or socialist system, it is impossible in a capitalist system. THAT my friend is the STUPID part of your argument.

Capitalism is a system in which man exploits man. Socialism is a system in which the opposite applies.


Even in capitalist societies there are, and always will be good honest men. The Nuffields, Carnegies, even the Hearsts, and Hughes', who have made fortunes, true, but have also donated huge amounts to the benefit of their fellow man.

I'm trying very hard, without success to think of just one communist leader who has even attempted to fit THAT mould.

Don T.