You know, Kat (and others) -

We seem to be divided about 50-50. Is fifty percent agreement enough to justify silencing the other half?

There are people who want to discuss this from a folkloric perspective. It's very clear that you don't like it, but isn't it their right to discuss what they want to discuss? Isn't that the principle of free discussion that we've lived by for the last twelve years - that people should be able to discuss things without harassment?

And those of you who seem to think we are so unholy for wanting to discuss these jokes - how do you know our reasons, when we claim our reasons are otherwise? You all sound like my ex-wife, who for 20 years found pure evil in my motive for every thing I did and every word I spoke....and now she likes me, because it turns out I was a hell of a lot better than husband #2 and husband #3.

Actually, I have no interest in the jokes myself. I get grossed out by most stand-up comics, and I leave the room when jokes get cruel or gross or degrading - but if people want to discuss such jokes, then I think they should be able to do so without harassment.

So, I dunno. I wish I knew what to say or do. I think it's my duty to defend the right of people to say what I would never say myself....

-Joe Offer-