Greg, good buddy, don't get too full of yourself about Doug. I have been doing battle with him for years, as have a few others. At some point, arguing with an idealogue becomes a meaningless exercise and you quit. I just jump and throw a few jabs now and again to remind him how wrong the policies of his heroes have now come to be understood. Once in a while he comes up with an original thought that deserves serious consideration, analysis, and debate/discussion. Most of the time there is no point.

Mick