I suppose that's a problem with churches, Smokey. They can present the ideal, knowing that the ideal is well-nigh impossible (even for their own clergy). They're not very good at telling people what to do when they have to compromise ideals - that's where people have to figure things out for themselves, I guess.

So, what's the Pope supposed to say: Don't have promiscuious sex - but, by the way, here's how to use a condom when you do have promiscuous sex. Why not depend on non-religious groups to promote condoms, and not force the churches to compromise their ideals? But as far as "actively discouraging condom use," how "active" is the Catholic campaign against condoms? It sure isn't very active here in the United States.

Should the Catholic Church offer alternatives to priests who just can't be celibate? (Well, I think they ought to be able to get married, but if celibacy is the rule, I think they ought to be celibate with no alternatives)

-Joe-