kat, I for one am well aware of the fact that their have been varying degrees of hurt in this whole business and I do not consider myself to have been personally injured which does make it easier for me to forgive although I am distressed that some people were really hurt, real damage was done to the forum and particularly that this did involve people who considered themselves friend of his.

I have made my position clear, I neither ask Michael to leave or stay but state that I would be happy to see him start afresh. I appreciate that others may feel differently and do so with justifcation.

I do however feel that forgiveness is a personal thing and people should be free make that descsion with out attracting criticism from others.

Jon