I think that there is a supposition that clubs are run for the benefit of professional performers when in many instances that is not the case -clubs are often more successful on singers and musician nights because the club members enjoy the participation. Our non guest nights are hugely popular because they are great fun and not just about the singing.Some simply do not come to paid performers nights because it does not feel like a club night and they want a variety of performers with whom they are familiar. I run a club, pay the going rate to professionals, book a variety of old acts and new and charge a fair amount on the door. I contact websites advertise in folk magazines and local press. We have our own website and do practically anything and everything to publicise the club -I don't get paid for this and don't expect to, I also work full time and try to do some singing in between -I am getting pretty tired of various threads knocking clubs and organisers for doing a job no one else in their right mind would do. PS I don't mind agents -I just object to the barrage of phone calls,emails and pushing that is done and the assumption that although I run a club I have no idea what music is out there -whereas I think I do,and have a 'wish list' as long as my arm. Sorry I am not having a go, but clubs and organisers are relentlessly patronised on this site, as if we dont know what we are doing and need help. I don't think we do.