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Thread #119776   Message #2610074
Posted By: Snuffy
13-Apr-09 - 07:29 AM
Thread Name: 'Rare' Caribbean shanties of Hugill, etc
Subject: RE: 'Rare' Caribbean shanties of Hugill, etc
It's very confusing: on the Carpenter Collection CD the following song goes under the title of Johnny Come Down To Hilo, and in the indexes it may also sometimes be referred to as Pull Down Below. It is sung by Rees Baldwin of Barry, Wales

Hilo, Johnny, Hilo,
I wonder what's the matter now
Johnny come down to Hilo.
Oh pull down below

Hilo, Johnny, Hilo,
I wonder what's the matter now
Johnny come down to Hilo.
Oh pull down below

I was born down Mobile Bay
But I got in debt so I ran away
Johnny come down to Hilo.
Pull down below

Away down South where I was born
Among the fields of yellow corn
Johnny come down to Hilo.
Pull down below

Oh Hilo, Johnny, Hilo,
I wonder what's the matter now
Johnny come down to Hilo.
Pull down below

Mr Baldwin also sings a fragment of the "normal" Tom's Gone to Hilo thus (changing Tom to John):

Johnny's gone, and I'll go too
Oho, Hilo
Oh, Johnny's gone, and I'll go too
John's gone to Hilo


Then in the index there are two song texts entitled Pull Down Below with completely different first lines:
a) All my time I've been courting Allie
b) I went to church I went to chapel (this is presumably the same as recorded by Stormalong John on A Liverpool Packet

And a bit of good news received via the Traditional Drama Forum implies that by June of next year "It is expected that by this time, the first four volumes of the printed version of the [Carpenter] collection will be nearing completion. One of these volumes, edited by Bob Walser, will be on sea shanties."