The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #117493   Message #2626015
Posted By: Teribus
07-May-09 - 01:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: Israel Moves in.
Subject: RE: BS: Israel Moves in.
CarolC, your post of 07 May 09 - 12:04 AM. Please give me examples of instances where Jews dispossessed Arabs in the area formerly known as Palestine between the years 1850 and 1947. The post I refer is a classic example of the ignorance and denial you are in about this period of this areas history.

CarolC, your post of 07 May 09 - 12:13 AM. Please give sources and proof regarding the bomb shelters only being for Jewish Israelis. I find this rather difficult to imagine having seen those shelters down in the south of Israel. They are rather similar to large sections of concrete drain pipes with blast walls protecting the open ends. You couldn't "prevent anybody getting into them if you tried. The warning times only allow you to run into these things before the rocket or mortar lands and explodes, there is no time to check anything. Warning times are so short these shelters are all over the place.

Nickhere, no group of so called refugees has been given more in aid than the Palestinians. All the Palestinian "leadership" has ever done has been to squander it to keep themselves in power.

Since 1947 the people of Palestine both Jew and Arab have been like two people arguing over something. First they are given the opportunity to share it, the Jews accept the Arabs reject the proposal so they decide to cut a pack of cards for it. The Arabs lose, so they say best of three, they lose again and suggest best of five, they lose again and demand best of seven. They lose yet again and now want to accept a lesser share than they originally turned down. If you elect to decide something by force of arms then losing has its consequences, that has been constant throughout the history of the human race, the Arabs of Palestine elected to fight and they lost. It is high time that they accepted that fact and lived with it, because if they do not and adhere to the Charter of Hamas, they will surely die and it will be by their own chosing.

Level playing fields do not enter the equation Nickhere, in 1948 the newly created Jewish State of Israel was given aid, the Palestinian Arabs were given aid, the playing field was fairly level. The Jews did something constructive with theirs, the Arabs funded pipe-dreams with theirs and allowed themselves to be used as political pawns in the game known as the "Cold War". As time went by this continued and "playing field" got distorted as happens when one side acts sensibly and other continues to pursue the impossible.