I've no interest in any "battle of Show of Hands", and I'm not particularly bothered in knowing more.

My point - perhaps not made clearly enough - was that the thread topic was about the nature of fRoots magazine. There's nothing wrong with being critical about a publication's idealogoy, look, feel, contents, etc. To make pejorative remarks about the editor's musical ability because of a personal grudge that some of us know nothing whatsoever about, and care even less about, and which is repeated ad nauseam every tme that editor's name appears in Mudcat, is not an argument.