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Thread #115854   Message #2634086
Posted By: Don Firth
17-May-09 - 03:53 PM
Thread Name: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
Subject: RE: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
In your last post, GfS (17 May 09 - 03:42 p.m.), you are doing some pretty flashy tap-dancing to back off from some of the links to dumb web sites you've offered and from some of your posts where you've obviously lost it, but you're still stumbling over your own feet. Fred Astaire or Ginger Rogers you are not.

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Obama has stated in several interviews that he supports civil unions, and it's up to religious institutions whether or not they would recognize the union as marriage.

And there are a substantial number of churches that are not only willing to recognize such unions as marriage, but will also perform marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples.

It was not that long ago that the Catholic church would not recognize a marriage that was performed in any church other than Catholic, even though secular law did recognize it. And last I heard, they still don't recognize the legality of divorce. A divorced person who remarries is considered guilty of adultery (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this).

Recently it sounds as if Obama has changed his position on same-sex marriage, stating that he believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman, BUT—he has stated that he opposes any Constitutional amendments on the subject, and he also came out against California's Proposition 8. Basically his legal position is consistent with liberal philosophy. He has his personal beliefs regarding marriage, but he does not agree that the government, either national or local, should interfere in the matter one way or the other.

I find that perfectly acceptable.

Don Firth