Well, with the witches they would dunk the suspected witch under water... If the woman drowned then that was evidence that the woman was not a witch... If she lived then that was proof that the woman was a witch and therefore should be done away with???

What barbaric thinking...

Like you, Richard, I can't believe tghat we are having this discussion, some 60 years after the United States put Japanese people on trial for war crimes for doing what Dick Cheney has been running around the country saying is okay in his book...

And meanwhile??? Not one shread of evidence that torture saved so much as one life??? Let alone thousands...

I'm sniffin' another round of mushroom cloud lies from Cheney...

B~