Calling something a fact--even vehemently--does not make it one. Your posts have continuously tried, for example, to invoke lifestyle choice as a basis for supporting proposition 8. You assert repeatedly that this is the key behind homosexuality.

You do this in sheer despite of evidence. "LIfestyle choice" is a straw man..

Ake has sturdily and steadfastly brought the conversation to another straw man, health issues and STDs. But marriage has not hinged on health issues for decades. I don't know if anyplace still requires the blood test for a marriage license. And in any case, that was not the core issue of the thread.

Nor have either of you spoken seriously to the actual issue, which is discrimination against minorities.


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