Not to change the subject here but thread creep seems to kill the initial intent of many threads. Something within the message of some threads triggers a chord in several readers at once and off they go posting about why the mayo went bad in that sandwich... It's happened to me as well. I guess some obscure questions, though they may seem important to some of us, are not very interesting to others. We can't seriously expect to find all the answers here, can we? Maybe some things are best left unanswered.