Seems to me its the same few people who have continued to argue the point over the months this thread has been running. The vast majority of the Mudcat membership have not posted at all!

I certainly dont feel intimidated by being called names and I see you have stopped shouting "bigot", contenting yourselves with snide comments.....that must take a lot of the satisfaction away...eh?

Actually I have had several PM's from members who agree with my stance, but just don't want to face the shit which is throw at anyone who wishes to hold an objective discussion on this issue.

I have also had PMs from friends and members who disagree with my views but are happy to conduct discussion in a friendly fashion in private.

Now I'm not going to waste my time reponding to name calling(that is what the last few threads have been basically),I will be happy to discuss any posts which relate to the issue, but it's a while since you came up with anything new or relevant.
Certainly not since the Cuban figures were posted.

I would remind Don Firth, that he has also been involved in this debate from the start, posting very little of value, just the usual "we all think you're wrong...so you are wrong."

I suppose basically where we differ is that you think everyone should have the same "rights", regardless of how they behave or the effect of their behaviour on society, and use "the law" to back up that belief.
Unfortunately "the law", which is formulated by politicians not the people, has never been a great aid to universal equality!

As I have said a dozen times, everyone does not have the same "rights", their "rights" depend on how vociferous they are or the political strength of their particular pressure group.

Just look at this thread as a window of oppertunity to look into another world where people begin to think about these matters for themselves and do not dumbly follow a path set down for them by self serving political correctness.

I have admitted to my friend Amos that I have learned a lot in these discussions..and have changed my stance a fair bit due to my participation here. I hope every one has found something to cause them to re-examine this very important issue....Ake