Hey, I didn't make it clear- that was not actually my first impression. Like you, Mbo, my first impression was that of wonderment- "What a great site!" I had been dipping into DT for a long time and was so glad when Mudcat came into being, continuing it, that I didn't even try the discussion forum until someone else told me about it. And even then, when I perceived it as being kind of a private inner core (Never a clique!), I could hardly wait until I learned what they were talking about. Mudcat is a special place; to quote Mbo again: Mudcat rules!

Ebbie