You missed a few days of school, pdq... The Americans gave Iraq all that stuff that 20 some years later Bush thought they still had... Like lots of chemicals... Where did Saddam get the gas that he used on the Kurds??? From the Iragi/Iran War, that's where... If you recall the Iraqis weren't doing well in that war until the US chipped in weapons and intellegence... To deny that is to deny history... That is the way it went down... I can't believe that anyone would argue differently... Way too much stuff out there to deny the US's role... Way too much!!!

Yo, bb...

I finally got around to me "hard copy" of the Post and reread E.J."s column and I think he hit it on the head... Yeah, there was a time when progressives were the ones who wanted to go off and support every insurgent movement... We older progressives have seen what that has brought US... 56,000 of our brothers and sisters dead in Vietnam... 5,000 in Iraq... Yeah, Obama is trying very hard to change the way we deal with conflict abroad and whereas the ol' progressive in me supports the moderates in Iran, I'm not up for yet another new and shiney war... The shine wears off 'um way to quick and they are real hard to end... So, yeah, patience and handshakes and all that stuff is more apt to help the Iranian insurgents than saber rattling, bluss and blunder... And perhaps yet another war, or act of war (bombing)...

B~