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Thread #4822   Message #26649
Posted By: Barry Finn
27-Apr-98 - 05:22 PM
Thread Name: Bowdlerised shanties
Subject: RE: Bowdlerised shanties
Pete, I got my versions of "Albertina" & "Good Ol Brig" from an old Cape Horner whose still singing & playing. I never knew it was the Albertina (until he sent my a recording 15yrs later) because he sang it aboard the Carthaginian & subed that name in, on another song he subed in the skipper's name and he wouldn't sing what he considered indecent content, so I think in another song I got the Tra La La version of the refrain instead of what ever it might have been. As for Mystic, yrs back I heard Shanty Jack, an ex tugboatman & great singer from England,, sing the "Chinee Bumboatman" (see in the DT), it's very, not PC, he changed nothing, the MC, before introducing the next singer said "we may not do it correct here but we do it right". I try not to offend the listeners, I did once, over 20 yrs ago, I sang "Hares On The Mountain" & a woman scorned me for it, but it was ok with her when John Roberts & Tony Barrand sang it, so I guess I'd much perfer to sing something 'cleaned up'. As for new shanties, I've heard some nice ones, Cindy Kallet-"We Rigged Our Ship", Peter Bellamy-"Roll Down" (see Transports thread), but I've yet to see or hear (even second hand reference) to them being used aboard ship, my thoughts on that are, there aren't near the amount of ships sailing now as there was 100yrs ago, nor the amount of shellbacks around today as back then & even if there were, only a handfull now do it full time on tall ships, so that with along the store of available traditional shanties, & further the sailors of todays tall ships mostly have a love for the traditional maritime culture would lend itself to using the traditional material. Barry