Actually I think Jeri nailed it. This is a clique of all the people who were left out of cliques in school, were misfits (and became musicians???), so they declared war on all cliques. That is why when people here they get answered if at all possible as fast as possible -- it is a quiet way of saying, come in, how can we help -- and why we are committed to openness and getting as many people into the clique against cliques as possible, until we outnumber them. Thanks Jeri: I have been trying to figure out what it was about this place I liked for four years now. A deep inclusive hatred of exclusion . That is why it is so agonizing when the trust breaks down or the flamers arrive or we just get tired of all the crap: it threatens the whole gambling hope we make every time we come here.

yours, Peter T.