no i don't tend to read the parpes as there is so much crap in them.

Wonderful, Jade. I am not sure if it was intentional but, if I may, I shall use that phrase forever to describe the gutter press. The parpes. Or maybe the parpers. The noise is about right and they make about as much sense as a parp. What a gem:-)

DeG

(Parp. Noun. Being either the noise a car horn makes or the noise that results from an excess of wind escaping from the nether regions. Depending on your locality, age and/or state of mind

Parp - verb. The act of parping. A horn or the other...)