Perhaps I should back up for a minute and clarify that in the context of this thread, by "Black Briton" I mean those people who have some Black African descent who either live in Britain or who used to live in Britain. [Yes, I know that you're not suppose to use a word in a definition for that word, but I don't think the term "sub-Saharan African nations" is applicable because their are people of Black African descent who live above the Sahara desert or within the Sahara desert].

In other words, I'm talking about those people who are descended from Black people who have lived in Great Britain for generations. And I am also talking about Black people who live in or used to live in Great Britain who are of Afro-Caribbean descent, Afro-South American descent, African American descent, Afro-Canadian descent, and [at least most of] the people who are from or are descended from Africa, including people of African descent of mixed race or of two biological Black parents who live in Great Britain and who may have other European countries (and may have done so for generations).

I'm aware that my definition for "Black Briton" may not include all of those people who are considered "Black" Great Britain, at least I got the impression that the referent "Black" (or "black") is used differently in Great Britain from this Mudcat thread.

Here is a post that I wrote trying to get clarification about that subject:

thread.cfm?threadid=101762#2058035

Subject: RE: BS: Does Being Dark Matter?
From: Azizi - PM
Date: 21 May 07 - 07:46 PM

And with regards to alanabit's story of "Betty" who had Sri Lankan origins saying ""Well done Alan. You really stuck up for us blacks.":

I found that story interesting on many levels. But, I'd like to focus on this one aspect of that story-

I don't think in the USA that people from Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan, and other places in the Far East use "blacks" as a group referent for themselves.

Apparently the referent "Black" in England and other parts of the UK includes person from Sri Lanka as well as Black Britons who were there prior to Black people from the Caribbean coming, Black people from the Caribbean, Africans, African Americans, Black Canadians, Black people from Latin/South American, Middle Easterners etc etc etc.

Am I right about that?

And is this the same way "Black" is used in Canada and in Australia?

When you think about it, it makes sense since some Sri Lankans, East Indians, Pakistanis, etc etc etc are much darker in skin color than African Americans. But I don't think that "black" is used that way in the USA.

Maybe I'm wrong.

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See that thread for the responses that some 'Catters gave to that question.