ake,
not to be too agressive or anything but it seems to me that you have enough time to post what are fairly long posts but not enough time to answer questions, whilst at the same time demanding answers from others, it seems a little one sided to me.

i have not the inclination to read through a bunch of statistics, that i don't really trust.
it is not just this i don't trust it is pretty much every survey and statistics list, numbers are too easy to manipulate, take a look at the schools table!!

the simple fact is that if EVERYONE would practice safe sex, there would be no extra problems.

you seem only able to see HIV as AIDS.
AIDS is the result of numerous infections at once that the body cannot fight because of the problems with producing white blood cells and antibodies. it is not HIV that kills people, it is the everyday infections that we all get.

but like i said if everyone used protection we would cut off it's life support, so to speak.

ebbies' point was just to illustrate the type of language you use. i for one don't see this issue as similar to the'black' cause, although things have been really bad for gays in the past, it pales to insignificance(?).

there are alot of deseases we need to spend time and money looking into and HIV/AIDS are just two of them.

maybe we should broaden the arguement for a while and say that maybe some dying from cancer cannot get married.

or meateating males cannot get married becuse prostat and bowel cancer has the highest rate of deaths in men.
could the same be said for women with a family history of breast cancer?

one of your' concerns AKE, was that gays should not be able to adopt because of their decreased life span but surely you can see there are decent arguements for some of the straight folks not to have children to pass down defective genes to?

i don't expect answrs from you AKE as i know you are a busy man but i hope i have given you something to think about!!!

i think we should all be concentrating on how to manage the sexual health problems of everyone rather than just THE MAINLY GAY DISEASE.

take care all

jade x x x